JaytonByeChoice
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If one wrestler almost has a take-down on the other and is clasping the body, will clasping be called at the instantaneous moment that the take-down is awarded, or will he be given a moment to release his grip?
If I have rear standing from neutral and the man attempts to switch me, I would much prefer to hold the clasp until the TD is awarded.
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~Jason Layton
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nycgreco
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You have "reaction" time to release the clasp after the takedown is earned, the same as if you are returning him to the mat from the top on a stand up. In this case it is also incumbant on the official to be very clear on when the TD is earned. |
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JaytonByeChoice
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How about if the clasp is directly into a tilt from the crab-ride? Would that be considered a pinning combination? I often times lock up a trapped arm from rear standing (neutral) and I would like to transition directly into a tilt on the mat. I wasn't sure if this would be considered a pinning combination because the man is not underneath me.
Thank you for the response.
~Jason Layton
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HWTclub
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In the case of a crab-ride you are already in control and you can not clasp. You can never use a clasp to put someone on their back from the mat. Try to look at it as you can only clasp if you have the guy on his back and you are trying to get the pin.
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JaytonByeChoice
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I know what you are talking about, and I understand that you cannot clasp once you are on top... but I'm talking about before I have control while it is still neutral.
If I go from rear standing (neutral) directly into a crab-ride tilt (clasping), then the opponent is going from neutral 'directly' to his back. I will not have secured the takedown until his back is exposed, which is why I'm asking if I can keep the lock?
You're most likely correct anyway HWTclub, but I wanted some clarification, thanks.
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HWTclub
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You probably shouldn't get called for a clasp in that situation but you are setting yourself up for possible clasping calls if you make that your bread and butter takedown. You would have to be ready to release the clasp in a split second if the guy is tough and doesn't go to his back. Then as I'm sure you realize that if he is tough and wiggling to not go to his back, the quick clasp release could be his escape.
Similiarly, just as an example, If you bear-hug someone right to their back you can hold the clasp while trying to pin him in the bear hug but if he wiggles out of near fall criteria you have to release the clasp immediately. The bear hug is safer clasping wise than your crab ride tilt.
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nycgreco
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The bear hug from feet to back is definitely a better illustration, but rule would apply to any situation where control and near fall criteria are gained simultaneously.
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JaytonByeChoice
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OK, so extending that logic... can you lock up a clasp if you already have the man in criteria from a 2on1 tilt (not from neutral).
Can you lockup a clasp if you turn the man to his back with a half first, bear-hugging from the pinning combination?
Thank you very much for your answers,
~Jason Layton
516 996 9922
Jaytonbye@yahoo.com
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HWTclub
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Quote: Originally Posted by JaytonByeChoiceOK, so extending that logic... can you lock up a clasp if you already have the man in criteria from a 2on1 tilt (not from neutral).
Can you lockup a clasp if you turn the man to his back with a half first, bear-hugging from the pinning combination?
Thank you very much for your answers,
~Jason Layton
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