mdog
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| | 11/04/07 at 03:32 PM | Reply with quote | #26 |
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Hoff,
What is the target # for fan attendence?
I hope everyone has taken advantage of purchasing tickets online to kick off the wrestling season? |
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hofman19
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| | 11/04/07 at 04:06 PM | Reply with quote | #27 |
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dog,
Since graduating, I have not been on campus as freqently as I would like to be. Therefore, to be completely honest with you, I probably would not be the best person to provide you with accurate answers to your inquiries.
From a personal perspective, I would be happy to see the Arena filled to half-3/4 capacity. The building has not producted this kind of output in the five years that I have been going to matches. Therefore, if we can get 3,000-3,500 people in the seats on a Saturday night, I'd consider the campaign to "Pack the Mack" to be a relative success.
In doing some experiementing on the ticket site, I can tell you that I am encouraged by the fact that one can not get more than six consecutive seats in the Reserved sections of the arena.
However, I am also somewhat troubled by the fact that you CAN get that many seats in the premium sections.
If I thought it would help boost attendence (and knew that SID Jim Sheehan would not kill me) I would offer to throw in a free slice of pizza and can of coke to all people sitting in the $15 seats. Those of us at PR get these nice little perks. Therefore, why not share. :-)
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LAWRENCE
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| | 11/04/07 at 04:35 PM | Reply with quote | #28 |
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hof:
did the wrestlers have to make weight for this wrestle off?
i am shocked that siciliano pinned danz. any details
i am mildly shocked with gillespie over smith? any details
do they take gillespie out of redshirt?
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hofman19
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| | 11/04/07 at 04:59 PM | Reply with quote | #29 |
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Lawrence,
While I am not 100 percent certain, I would think that the guys probably had a small allowance. However, with the season less than a weak away, I would think the staff told the projected starters to be close enough.
Danz vs. Siciliano- Danz the more polished of the two on their feet. Danz got in on singles at least three or four times, but was only able to finish one of the attempts; Led 2-0 after the 1st period.
In the second period, Danz was down to start the period. Siciliano immediately got legs in and was working Danz over. After fighting off the exposure for about 30-45 seconds, Danz finally gave up NF-3....With :20 remainin in the period, Siciliano powered Danz over again and secured the fall with approx. 10 seconds left in the 2nd....Siciliano looked extremely tough on top. He appears to be further along that I thought he would be at this stage.
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Smith vs. Gillespie- Scoreless after one. Gillespie was in on a single on the edge of the mat midway through the first but could not pull it in bounds. 1st period ends scoreless
Gillespie down to start the 2nd. Gillespie works his way into very good position to get the reversal. The outside ref calls locked hands on Smith. Smith ends up surrending the reversal anyway a few seconds later....Smith escapes to trail 3-1 after the 2nd.
Smith down to begin the third..Smith gets the escape to cut the deficit to one...Smith picks up his pace and aggressiveness, but never looks overly close to finishing anything.
Stall warning on Gillespie with about 30 seconds remaining in match...Smith working the head hard but never gets close to getting the TD.
***My guess is that PJ still redshirts. Smith showed signs last year of being every bit as good as he was expected to be coming out of HS as an InterMat top-50 recruit. He just seems to wrestle a little too defensively at times.
Either way, with a scholarship athlete already at the weight, it would not hurt to give Gillespie the chance to gradually build up muscle and grow into the weight.
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tjhart
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| | 11/04/07 at 05:19 PM | Reply with quote | #30 |
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Great deatils!
Any others?
BB v Tortora 4-3. Was it that close?
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saw914
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| | 11/04/07 at 06:13 PM | Reply with quote | #31 |
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i think when Gillespie really grows into his new weight class and packs on some muscle he will be even more of a threat then he is now. an unbelieveable wrestler, i give him congrats on showing hofstra what hes got |
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ussal
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| | 11/05/07 at 01:04 PM | Reply with quote | #33 |
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Usual great job hofman.
Can we push you to give a Missouri-Pride possible,
or probable lineups, matchups; etc.
Thank you.
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MartyR
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| | 11/05/07 at 02:59 PM | Reply with quote | #34 |
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Still waaayyy too early and not the TRUE picture but, I still have opinions...
125- Tomassette- better get better to AA...I figure he came in not ready to make any mistakes and probably wont see his best until after Christmas.
133- Ruggirello- this is Hofstra's BEST chance for a Title....yes, a title- he is only getting more "comfortable" with the College style.
141- Griffen - he sure can ride. I wish he was more "offensive" but, he will be right there come Tourney time- he is a tough wrestler.
149- Smith- look this dude better start performing as to his "billing". He was the ONE returner who should have come in and "lit it up"...let a true freshmen dictate the pace...Coach has to really think this one out...or get the caddle prod and wake this boy up.
157- Bowman- not what I expected- not too enthralled. H.S. isnt College
165- Patrovich- one of the toughest weights this year. RP will always be competitive with anyone but, will find some major obstacles along the road.
174- Lucas- everything in the World cant make him ride an opponent. He has the ability to beat "anyone" but, if you cant ride- you cant hide.
184- NOT INTERESTED
197- Rovelli- looked like 'Rovelli"...this weight class he may have to be more physical then the other "Rovelli"
True Freshmen-
Mashkow- has to get stronger- schools still out
Accordino- WOW- he is real and he will be an AA- shame you cant get him in the line-up this year.
Gillespie- in time an AA at 157.
TEAM-
First look says Top 20- / probable 15-17
SUPPORT-
U-G-L-Y........A D-1 School on Long Island and you cant get more watching...very sad. Really shows the "lack of interest" for the Sport - YOU CANT BLAME - "NEWSDAY".
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illeatyou275
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| | 11/05/07 at 03:49 PM | Reply with quote | #35 |
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marty how can you say mashkow is not strong enough.. did u see him lift tommasette with one hand airborn.
also i give alot of credit to gillespie on the great match he had
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SuffCoFan
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| | 11/05/07 at 03:57 PM | Reply with quote | #36 |
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SUPPORT-
U-G-L-Y........A D-1 School on Long Island and you cant get more watching...very sad. Really shows the "lack of interest" for the Sport - YOU CANT BLAME - "NEWSDAY".
Lets at least wait until the Missouri match to see what kind of crowd shows before you start getting negative about Hofstras support .
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LAWRENCE
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| | 11/05/07 at 04:13 PM | Reply with quote | #37 |
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to be honest a lot of youth kids are still in there fall sports and had competitions on sunday. i think you will see a good crowd against missouri.
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MartyR
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| | 11/05/07 at 05:32 PM | Reply with quote | #38 |
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Biggest problem for "true" freshmen.....to escape from the bottom position (defensive position).
This is the tell-tale sign for new incoming "freshmen". SPEED/ SKILL is relative at the D-1 level. You are suppose to be able to takedown the other guy....but, when the other guy rides the "snot" out of you. ....the only thing you can do is hope to get stronger.
SUPPORT....
ok , so I jumped the gun but, there are MILLIONS of Long Islanders and thousands of wrestlers. We'll see if the Mack gets filled....I would hope that it will be but I highly doubt it. The "marketing" skills are lacking. The media coverage is "lacking". The fan base is "lacking".
Were there any Hofstra Students there.....and in what numbers ???
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bobsbeepers
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| | 11/05/07 at 05:36 PM | Reply with quote | #39 |
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| Marty the wrestle-offs took place in a high school 40 minutes away from Hofstra on a Sunday afternoon. Give it a break, we all know that more support is needed but I can guarantee you there will be a much better turnout for the Missouri match. |
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illeatyou275
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| | 11/05/07 at 05:42 PM | Reply with quote | #40 |
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Actually Tyler did get out in the first 15 seconds in the 1st period. I even thought Tomasette should have worked more on top in the 3rd.. Was holding on ,instead of going for anykind of turn. Pj got out also,then I was suprised smith got hit for a stall point while losing late in the match . Accordino and Mashkow both got ridden out in the 3rd,but then again I have seen Tomasette and Griffen ride out many a foe.
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MartyR
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| | 11/05/07 at 05:55 PM | Reply with quote | #41 |
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bobs,
What is the problem here.....Has Hofstra sold out the Mack before ???
I think they came close a few times All-Star Duals/ ??? There is a PROBLEM with this Sport selling seats. It is obvious at a lot of Tournies etc.
We'll see how many seats are sold for Missouri.....I think there'll be plenty left open. This isnt ROCKET SCIENCE....the Sport does not sell. Mainly, due to losing or never having the "kid" following....and or now people on Long Island have too much to do then sit in a Gymnasium watching Wrestling.
If you Market this Sport correctly - you would never ever have to speak about Title 9 again. It starts by "kid" support/ "student" support- (have sorority night or frat night) simultaneously with "visual" support (TV)...and then the Mack will have to turn away people.
......as far as wrestle-offs go and the "true freshmen" , we'll see how they do in open Tournies. I like Accordino a lot !!! Saw him last year and I know he has the goods....PJ looks like he will only get better with seasoning and this is a good thing. TM will have to work and improve.
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illeatyou275
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| | 11/05/07 at 06:04 PM | Reply with quote | #42 |
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mashkow wrestled the #7 wrestler tough. you obviosly have a personal problem with something. Because the people I spoke to yesterday( a little bit more knowledgeable than you,believe it or not)were very impressed. And Tomasette looked conditoned to me.
Actually I was pretty impressed with all the freshman. Even Danz wrestledup(you know the kid you said who was going to give Lucas a go).
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MartyR
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| | 11/05/07 at 06:17 PM | Reply with quote | #43 |
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hmmmmm......
I dont know WHY you would say that. Im just keeping it real...I cant SEE through anyone elses eyes but, my own. .....whether they are MORE knowledgable or not -TOO FUNNY.- Seriously, I dont think my lack of knowledge is relevent to VISION but, if you think someone else SEEs more....hooray!!!
I wasnt so impressed with possible AA- Tomassette yesterday (maybe thats NOT what your seeing). I wasnt so impressed with - Smith , Bowman either. Could be that its early....and it was just wrestle-offs
I was monumentally impressed by an early season Griffen- and a frosh like Accordino.
I was ultimately surprised by PJ Gillespie....not, that I didnt think he was capable . I just didnt expect it.
everything else seemed relative....Alton doing his takedown thing and not being able to ride an inferior wrestler...Ryan /Louie beating up on inferior kids. Rovelli looked the same as last yr..
So, it was ALL GOOD.
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hofman19
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| | 11/05/07 at 07:16 PM | Reply with quote | #44 |
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Us,
Good to hear from you. I've missed our online dialogues. Come down and say hello on Saturday.
As as the lineup/Predictions, here goes:
125- #7 Tomasette vs. # 20 Olanowski/Pescaglia- Pescaglia won the wrestle-off,, but something tells me that Smith elects to go with the more experienced person in Olanowski; Prediction: Tomasette; 3-0 HU
133- #9 Rugirello vs. #2 McCormick- The highlighted match of the evening; a battle of top-10 wrestlers; Prediction: Ruggirello in an upset; 6-0 HU
141- #2 Griffin vs. Saxton/Hoehn- Hoehn pinned Saxton at the wrestle-off; However, I think Saxton is the more highly regarded of the two; Griffin is too strong and too experienced for either; Prediction: Griffin; 9-0 HU
149- Smith vs. #9 Wagner- I think Smith is the more naturally talented; However, Wagner has the better track record; Comes down to which version of Smith shows up; The Mitch who majored Vallimont can go with almost anyone; The one who we saw this past weekend will come up short; Prediction: Wagner; 9-3
157- Bonilla-Bowman vs. #13 Chandler- Chandler did not look great at the wrestle-off (losing to Brooks 2-1); However he has the experience and has a few more big wins than BB; Prediction: Chandler; 9-6
165- Patrovich vs. #18 Marable- Marable was probably the best reserve in the nation last year; Several times he step in for an injured Pell or went up a weight and performed well. However, Patrovich looked unbelievable at wrestle-offs; This match belongs in the toss-up category; In the case of all things being even, go with the home field; Prediction: Patrovich 12-6
174- Lucas vs. Garrity- Garrity lost at the wrestle-offs. Therefore, coach Smith may go with Williamson who was the last man standing at the weight; Lucas is a beast; I think his strength and quickness will be too much for anyone that the Tigers put out there; Alton just needs to avoid wrestling down to the level of competition. He was guilty of that too often last year; Prediction: Lucas 15-6
184- Siciliano vs. #6 Jordan- If he rides the way he did yesterday, Siciliano may be able to keep the score relatively close. However, Jordan's experience and athleticsm will be too much for the true freshman; Prediction: Jordan; 15-9
197- #10 Rovelli vs. #4 Askren- Like most matches that he wrestles, this one will come down to how well Joe is able to ride and execute his tilts. Anyone who has seen vintage Rovelli knows that he can rack up a quick 8-10 points in a hurry with his ability from top. Unfortunately Joe has never shown the same consistency from his feet; While yet to be seen, a lot of people believe that Max will end up being the better of the two brothers. This is a scary thought....As much as I want to give the "w" to Joe, Askren just seems to have an inate ability to trail most of a match and then hit a huge move (usually off of a scramble) to pull out the bout; Prediction: Askren; 15-12
285- Guerin vs. #14 Ellis- It is very difficult to go against a top-15 wrestler who has DI experience under his belt. Prediction: Ellis; 15-15
Tossups: 133, 149, 157, 165, 197
Potential Mizzou Bonus Points: 184, 285
Potential Hofstra Bonus Points: 141, 174
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HWTclub
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| | 11/06/07 at 10:26 AM | Reply with quote | #46 |
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I know this is a little off topic but there are posts about the attendance in this thread.
I think having matches at the NYAC was bad for attendance. Not everyone from long island wants the hassle of taking a trip into Manhattan to see Hofstra wrestle. The matches were actually kind of fun at the NYAC with an atmosphere of a cock fight and seats right on the edge of the mat but the home matches should all be at Hofstra. HMM, maybe having chairs surrounding the mats at Hofstra like at the NYAC would make the atmosphere more fun. Either way, If Hofstra wrestling wants to "pack the mack" they have to hold their matches at the mack!
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grappler
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| | 11/06/07 at 03:21 PM | Reply with quote | #47 |
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where is siciliano from? what did he do in high school? |
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LAWRENCE
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| | 11/06/07 at 03:35 PM | Reply with quote | #48 |
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nj 4th place
severely broke his ankle as a junior. just after placing in beast of east
lost junior season and part of senior year
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ussal
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| | 11/06/07 at 05:04 PM | Reply with quote | #49 |
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Thanks hof. I'll be there in 107: if this Pack the Mack flies,
I won't be alone this time. lol
Say, Marty listed the Wantagh tourney in a Post. That's
Valley Central, and will Cody be wrestling here ? And does he have
Pride in his future ?
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hofman19
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| | 11/06/07 at 08:08 PM | Reply with quote | #50 |
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Us,
Cody does attend Valley Central. Therefore, minus injury, I would think he should be in the lineup.
With regard to his future, I think it is a little too early to even make educated guesses. Too much can happen in the next two years.
I remember that after coach Ryan left Hofstra, there was talk the Lou was considering taking some time off and then enrolling at Cornell.
If Cody is as solid a student as Lou was, then he may have Ivy League aspirations.
From a wrestling standpoint, if Cody goes on to win a few more state titltes, he more than likely will have big-10, big-12, and EIWA offers on the table. Depending on the combination of academics and athletics, quite a few of these schools could be hard to turn down. The seeming emerge of an upstate school like Binghamton could appeal to Cody.
I will say that the better Lou does both on and off the mat at HU, the better the University has of landing Cody. However, as was demonstrated recently with the Brent Metcalf recruitment (VT over Michigan), one can not automatically assume that little brother will follow big brother to college.
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