JFELLOW
Good afternoon.  Anyone know which teams are in the finals today?
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bararmking87
PEQUA BABY!!!!!

KEEP DOUBTING, THATS WHAT THEY DO
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JFELLOW
Thanks bararm.  How about the other side of the bracket?
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bararmking87
Macarthur v pequa final
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JFELLOW
what was the score in the  Massapequa semi match?
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Ajrobles51
JFELLOW wrote:
what was the score in the  Massapequa semi match?


40-34. Came down to the last match  
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bararmking87
Kid takes a dive😂😂😂😂

wow. Hell of a job mac coaches. Teaching your kids life lessons for the future!
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Reverse23
What happened?
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skinsfanatic
Illegal slam on Pequa. The Mac kid couldn’t continue. 
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bararmking87
He seemed to be able to run and around and celebrate after. 12 point swing🤨
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Tommyguns125
Keyword "Illegal" 
thomas
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Reverse23
So I take it Mac won.
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BigPapaPump
Kid was hurt, no dive.  It was a mat return with a trapped arm.  Crowd behavior was poor to say the least...

Congratulations to MacArthur DI and Clarke DII.  Great jobs today.

The DI Semifinal matches were outstanding.  Manhasset proved that they belong!  Coaches are doing a great job with that program.

Clarke was a great host and then went out and won it all.  Kids and coaches have a lot to proud of.
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Beachin

Congratulations to both MacArthur and Clark.  They both brought it today.  I agree with everything BigPapaPump pump has already said, but will say some of it again.

Section 8 semis and duals were fun to watch.  If you are a fan of wrestling make the time next year, it will be a cheap night out, worth the price of admission.

It was obvious Manhasset was up a coming based on their performance in the wrestle backs of last year’s counties. I was watching then, and it and it seemed like every other match called was a kid from Manhasset.  They have arrived on the section 8 scene this year and made it known.

In Massapequa/ MacArthur match trapped arm mat return to the same side of trapped arm is illegal, so call was correct.  Kid being able to continue depends on kid, coach, attending physician/trainer, and final say is referee.

Kid was brought down hard and looked stunned and seemed to be in a lot of pain.

I did not see anyone making an effort to tell him to stay down.  Kid never looked like he recovered from the slam.  Even if he tried to rally he would not have been doing his team a favor unless he was 100%.

As far as coaches, I do not know the MacArthur coaches personally, but I think it is wrong to question their integrity on this. MacArthur coaches are respected in the wrestling community on Long Island based on the program they have built and represented over the years.  Based on what I saw tonight they are teaching their kids the right life lessons for the future … work hard, compete hard, mental toughness, don’t give up when behind, etc.

This all being said I hope Massapequa gets a wildcard and another chance to compete upstate next week.  I think there are 5 or 6 teams on long Island this year that are in the top 8 in the state, Unfortunately the format of this tournament doesn’t allow them all to compete at the state level.   That’s where the UE duals of the past may have been a better format.

As far as rules:

RULE 7 INFRACTIONS 7-1-1 Slam: Returning an opponent to the mat with unnecessary force shall include unintentional loss of control causing unsafe impact and/or risk to head, neck or other body parts of the opponent. NOTE: Regardless of who hits the mat first or if a knee touches first a slam may be called. When a wrestler lifts their opponent off the mat, that wrestler is responsible for their opponent’s safe return to the mat. Force is the determining factor.

Injured Contestant: In the event of injury to a contestant the referee has the authority to terminate a match whenever they feel that the contestant would be in danger of further injury if they were to continue to wrestle. Coach, parent, trainer or a person who is a medical doctor or claims to be a medical doctor and is not the attending physician cannot override the referee's decision. The designated on site physician who states that an injured contestant can continue wrestling does bear the responsibility for any further injury to that contestant. The referee can override the attending physician in this case and not allow the wrestler to continue. 40 UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN THE DECISION OF THE DESIGNATED ON SITE PHYSICAN THAT A CONTESTANT NOT CONTINUE BE OVERRULED BY ANYONE INCLUDING THE REFEREE. If a physician is present, who is not officially the attending (on site) physician, and recommends the wrestler not continue, the referee shall not override this decision.

 

Eric Maquet
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LAWRENCE
Manhasset is the real deal. They lost 28-27 to MacArthur. They could finish top 2 in the Nassau County
Championships Tournament.
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Freestyle_King

Obviously nobody wants any student to get hurt. That’s a given of course. Congrats to all Final Four teams is due, and to MacArthur.

One point to note, is that the call was not made until the wrestler on bottom reacted. The Massapequa wrestler barely lifted him. Trapped arm would be another story. Unfortunate in terms of how it affected the rest of the dual, right or wrong aside.    

As far as injury defaulting in a match that was one-sided, that created a huge 11 point swing, and changed all the odd & even match-up strategy the rest of the finals (because then the losing team must take gambles). If you look at the dual on paper, it changed what wrestlers competed against each other in a big way. The real loser was the fans for not getting to see how that dual would go without this issue.

Nobody should ever accuse an injured wrestler of anything, and there’s no need to debate it. It’s simple- wrestler seemed to be very hurt, and couldn’t continue in the biggest dual of the year.... so of course I’m guessing the student will be not wrestling until next week or after, if at all. 

Counties in 3 weeks, and an overall champion will be crowned.  Could be any of 3-4 teams.   Then this controversy won’t matter any more. Good luck to all. 

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hulkster
so of course I’m guessing the student will be not wrestling until next week or after, if at all.  ????

if a wrestler can't continue in a match, that means they shouldn't wrestle for a week or more?  
"if at all"  - the rest of the season ??

that makes no sense.
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bararmking87
Kid was at a club practice the next day. Arm healed up in the sling real well apparently
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Freestyle_king1

Hulkster-

I re-read that post. You are right. That was wrong to say. I apologize.

 

Let’s all keep it positive.  We watch a great county every year.  Good luck to the Long Island teams competing upstate.

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Reverse23
Best of luck to Mac upstate!  Carry the torch, and give Nassau its third straight win!!
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132nomore
Reverse23 wrote:
Best of luck to Mac upstate!  Carry the torch, and give Nassau its third straight win!!


sec 11 guy but will admit Mac has a good chance to keep sec 8 streak going 
Respect is Earned NOT Given
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Chuckster4pin
Sec xi guy as well wondering how points system? Determined pequa did not gain a wildcard? Great job strong 💪 island . Upstate experienced will serve well in weeks to come.
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